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Well, if the title doesnt say enough already..

 

Im a complete car noob. I can drive Autos perfectly fine (actually pretty damn good, considering what Ive had to drive for the past 3 years), but I want to learn Manuals. And I know next to nothing about the internal systems and such. I play games like Gran Turismo and Need For Speed Underground etc, so Ive picked up a bit of knowledge on tuning cars, and the ideas behind modifications and stuff, but nothing else, really.

 

So, what Im asking, is what would be a decent project car? It would need to be something I can find fairly cheap with a good selection of parts for, that I can tinker on easily enough not to completely ruin it if I mess up, but still learn a lot on it. Right now I drive a '95 Nissan Sentra (automatic tranny, so I cant do anything worthwhile for it, I dont think), so a smaller car would also be around the top on my preferred list, but not absolutely necessary.

 

Also, this car would most likely end up being a daily driver.. So reliability is/would be a concern for the future. If there is a car that isnt reliable stock, that can be once new parts are on it, then I would be ok with that, as I can still use my other car for a while.

 

And, random thought.. Please tell me that the internals of a car arent that much different than from a computer, in the sense of being able to select fairly universal parts for engines and whatnot.. I know there are a lot of different ones, so yeah.. >.<

 

 

Thanks for the look, and any help. :shy:

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hmm if i was you id start with a nissan 240sx.. thats the original project car I wanted but i didnt have much time or money so I got the Integra. Integras are nice too and if you dont rmbr thats the car i brought to the meetup :).

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The 240SX is a good platform

 

I would also recommend:

 

- Acura Integra

- Honda Civic

- Mitsubishi Eclipse

 

There are HUGE aftermarket followings for all 3 cars. You can find all sorts of parts. Plus they'll all last forever.

 

I wouldn't say that internals are "universal"....like you can't put Honda pistons in a Toyota (I don't think....lol).

 

It depends on what internals really. Most of them have specific specifications and sizes that you have to follow or research if you want to "upgrade". Either way, good luck man. My Toyota MR2 is my project car. I'm rebuilding the engine in the winter. Tons of fun.

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The 240SX is a good platform

 

I would also recommend:

 

- Acura Integra

- Honda Civic

- Mitsubishi Eclipse

 

There are HUGE aftermarket followings for all 3 cars. You can find all sorts of parts. Plus they'll all last forever.

 

I wouldn't say that internals are "universal"....like you can't put Honda pistons in a Toyota (I don't think....lol).

 

It depends on what internals really. Most of them have specific specifications and sizes that you have to follow or research if you want to "upgrade". Either way, good luck man. My Toyota MR2 is my project car. I'm rebuilding the engine in the winter. Tons of fun.

 

 

yes these cars are also good recommendations.. man I wanted a MR2 also but i don't think i could handle older cars maintenance that much but yeah.

 

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Hah, yeah, I remember that Integra. I had almost no room in the back seat lol. That would be a slight concern for me. As I may end up driving my project daily, I would end up carting friends at some point (assuming I even leave extra seats in it, lol). Also, arent some years of Integras really reliably-challenged?

 

Ive thought about an Eclipse a lot, but it seems kind of hard to find one that I like. (I had been wanting a '98 with AWD, manual tranny.. Not a lot of those floating around) But I could get a different type..

 

I like the body style of Civics (not as much as the '98 Eclipse though), but Ive never really seen any perform. Ill check out some videos and stuff and see if I like the way they appear to drive. Hell, my friend has a '97 Civ that he would let me drive around. I may just do that instead of looking at videos. Im also guessing that Civs are much easier to find, and cheaper than an Eclipse..

 

Ive also been thinking about trading my current Sentra for one with a manual tranny. I dont think there are a ton of parts available for one, like on the others mentioned, but I could learn some stuff from working on one. Plus I already know how they drive. That would always be a help.

 

 

Edit: As for the 240SX, arent those insanely rare now, since everyone started drifting them into metal barricades?

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Hah, yeah, I remember that Integra. I had almost no room in the back seat lol. That would be a slight concern for me. As I may end up driving my project daily, I would end up carting friends at some point (assuming I even leave extra seats in it, lol). Also, arent some years of Integras really reliably-challenged?

 

Ive thought about an Eclipse a lot, but it seems kind of hard to find one that I like. (I had been wanting a '98 with AWD, manual tranny.. Not a lot of those floating around) But I could get a different type..

 

I like the body style of Civics (not as much as the '98 Eclipse though), but Ive never really seen any perform. Ill check out some videos and stuff and see if I like the way they appear to drive. Hell, my friend has a '97 Civ that he would let me drive around. I may just do that instead of looking at videos. Im also guessing that Civs are much easier to find, and cheaper than an Eclipse..

 

Ive also been thinking about trading my current Sentra for one with a manual tranny. I dont think there are a ton of parts available for one, like on the others mentioned, but I could learn some stuff from working on one. Plus I already know how they drive. That would always be a help.

Edit: As for the 240SX, arent those insanely rare now, since everyone started drifting them into metal barricades?

 

About the Integra and room.. yeah its not that spacious but i mean if you want a coupe thats how its gonna be. There are some 4door Integras around that you could look for. The Reliability on Integras is actually pretty good but it depends on how you take reliability because any old car is gonna give you some problems depending on the year you buy. I heard Eclipses have alot of maintenance problems but I really would not truly know because I dont own one..

 

you could maybe sell ur current sentra and buy a newer one thats a SER SPEC V thats 6spd. my friend has one and its pretty nice.

 

yeah 240sx are pretty rare nowadays but thats whats gonan make it more of a project if you can find one in ok condition and fix it up.

 

 

 

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get a civic and keep the sentra. if you own a car already you will thank yourself in the long run that you didn't get rid of it. it's ALWAYS good to have a back up car. i don't recommend having a project car w/o a back up car. I would stay away from DSM's if you are on a budget. It is hard to find a nice DSM that hasn't been abused. DSM's can cause alot of issues and can be a PITA sometimes. 240sx are over rated. a civic would be a perfect beginner car. parts are cheap as hell. you can mix parts from other hondas and put it on a civic. engines are for the most part cheap and mod's aren't too expensive either. maintainability is also really cheap. i'm on civic HX wheels on my hatchback and a whole new set of tires were 190 bucks for some toyo proxes. hondas are reliable as hell man. just try to stay away from wrecked or rusted ones. you'll be happy in the long run.

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Yeah Ive been looking around some other forums and modding websites, and it seems like a Civic would be my best bet.. I just need to get a few thousand to buy one with some extra to buy parts/repair it..

 

Im still looking around for other possible cars I could use. I saw some interesting stuff on Toyota Corollas.. Anyone have experience/opinions on one of those?

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i would ditch everything youve learned from the computer games.

 

the best thing to do would be go with a dsm,

 

any 90-99 eclipse/talon/laser

 

only the turbo ones though, the non turbos are a waste of time/money

 

 

and no old cars are really reliable once u start modding em, unless u do it all right

 

 

i will get back to this later, have to run right now

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lets put it this way i drive a dsm and was in ur spot when i learned about them.

 

doing it yourself is very easy

there are many tech articles very easy to find on the internet

there are alot of knowledgeble ppl on line that help you

easy to get into a local group in your town and make friends to help you

learning about them is easy

very reliable stock (if u can find em that way)

 

 

seriously shit ran well for me for a very long time, learned how do to some free mods got aqainted with the car

learned how do to simple fixer uppers.

 

then i went all out onto mods, new turbo, new head etc.

that took me a while since parts n shit had stuff misssing was a bitch

 

but in the end

i got a nice whip :P

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alot of people don't come across any reliable dsm these days really. especially AWD ones.

 

 

Also no matter what. when getting an older car do the "old car" maintenance when you first get it. replace stuff that is old. don't start modding til your car is running reliably in 100% shape. you will thank yourself in the long run. replacing old vacuum lines, leaky gaskets, soggy fuel/radiator lines, etc.. i could blabber all day long but i'm to lazy to really type alot.

 

also corollas are F***ing FUN. just hard to find. and when found (usually owned by someone who knows about it these days) they are expensive.

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man I wanted a MR2 also but i don't think i could handle older cars maintenance that much but yeah.

 

MR2s are hard to find. Well ok let me re-phrase that. MR2s are easy to find BUT It's going to be pricey. I've seen people sell N/A MR2s for $6k, but you can get a USDM turbo model or even a modded swaped car for that price. BUT MR2s hold their value very well. But again, the cars that have been swapped are very hit or miss because if they didnt' swap body harnesses, cut corners, or had a mediocore shop that doesn't know MR2s do it, you could be in for some trouble...but that's just my 2c.

 

it's ALWAYS good to have a back up car.

 

Dude, this could not be true enough! When I bought my MR2 in August, I was going to sell my truck that I had because well, I was so into having my MR2 and the fact that I knew it in and out and could do a lot of work on it myself, but then on Friday, I took my car around the block, went through a construction zone, and BOOM, bent my front rim. Luckilly my truck, although it has an obnoxious valve tap on start-up and gets TERRIBLE gas mileage, runs great and I can use it until I find a rim.

 

Not only that, but my MR2 wouldn't hold up in the snow for shit....annddd it's my project car, so I'm prepping for paint soon. lol. But yeah, if you have no reason to sell your Sentra, keep it.

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oh, and did someone say DSM!?

 

 

 

LOL 459awhp on stock internals FTW

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I just find it funny that no one thinks about american cars anymore for a project. It makes me laugh, really does.

 

Have you maybe thought of a 1991 Ford Escort or a 1971 Buick Regal?

 

You could even think about a Toyota Yaris; the Tein USA Yaris is a badass machine.

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Oh, I would absolutely love playing with a bit of classic muscle, dont get me wrong. But the insurance and parts for those are probably expensive as all hell.

 

Right now, it looks like I will be inheriting my dads truck when I get back from basic training (my parents are selling my Sentra and getting a minivan or SUV for themselves), but I wont really complain about it being bigger than I wanted.

 

The truck is a '96 or '97 Toyota T100, with the extended cab or whatever. Im thinking I will be stripping the interior to put something other than brown in, maybe a new exhaust system, and getting a small drop and street tires, a sound system, and new lights all around. Its an automatic, so thats all I would really feel like doing to it, I think. Unless theres some way I can put an after-market manual transmission in, or if theres a way to re-tune the RPM shift points through the trucks ECU or whatever, in which case I will probably go to town on this thing.

 

Trucks arent exactly my driving style, but theres so much possibility for modifications in them. Plus they are a lot more durable than cars. So I think I will have fun regardless. :shy:

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man i want a 97-98 240 so bad, but project that would be good. you can do a lot with a eclipse or talon(same engine). 240sx mainly you would do an engine swap. sr20/rb20/rb25det/rb26dett/or the supra engine i think j something. If you can find a AE86, thats be a lot of fun. If you dont know what it is, it's a 1986 Toyota corolla.

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I just find it funny that no one thinks about american cars anymore for a project. It makes me laugh, really does.

 

Have you maybe thought of a 1991 Ford Escort or a 1971 Buick Regal?

I own a 95 ford escort suppose to be a project car but I drive it everyday oh well. lol

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you'd be surprised, there are a lot of people who dont know what a AE86 is -_-

 

.....*raises his hand slowly* :question:

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Theres Initial D, and those F&F movies, and the JDM Scene, and the whole drifting scene......

 

Dude, a foxbody mustang would be freakin awesome if you can scrounge up the cash.

 

 

I just looked up that initial D, is there an english version? That stuff looks way sweet

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