Selling Kandi Opinions

[justindettman 0]

So my disabilities are getting worse and worse as expected. I'm unable to get a job, I can't learn to drive because of my processing disorder and am unable to do most chores around the house (I'm 17) because I tire too easily. My mom felt really bad that I have no way of making money for myself so she offered a job to iron 8 shirts for $10... This has turned into a 3 day project for me. So considering I haven't been able to make money in the past year and a half or so, I've been getting desperate. So I was thinking maybe I'd start selling Kandi online. I know some or most (I don't know how many) people are against it, and that it's against kandi culture... It's just I'm so desperate for money, I don't know what to do at this point.

 

So what are your thoughts and opinions about people selling kandi online? Yes? No? You don't care? Anything would help me make this decision, because I just don't know what to do. This is a big decision for me so, I figured It'd be best to get GSCs help. (Because your awesome and I love you) ; ) Plus, do to my location, age, and lack of money, I haven't even been to a rave yet. So I can't really count myself as a raver as much as, I am just a raver at heart!

 

Thanks guys!

 

*NO, I WILL NEVER NEVER FOREVER NEVER GLOWSTICK FOR MONEY! SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.* ^^,

[Lira 38]

Sigh! I don't know what to tell you, man. My personal opinion is that people should never sell kandi/kandy/candi (I don't even know how "kandi" evolved to be the default spelling when it used to be all over the place)-- it was born from a pure & simple desire to barter/trade, or to gift as a gesture of appreciation or admiration or simple camaraderie-- but it's your choice in the end when you're stuck between a rock & a hard place.

 

I will say, though, that with selling anything-- you have to decide whether it's going to sell enough to make up for the cost of materials (beads, etc) and whether you have a market. Lots of people are selling kandi these days (double sigh...) and if you can't corner the market or find enough buyers, there's almost no point.

 

I'm not a kandi kid & I was never a raver, but I have a box of bracelets I've received over the years all the same & I can tell you where every single strand came from, when I got it, and who gave it to me-- and why! (from friends, from random people who saw me glowsticking/flow-wandering, etc) I may not adhere to rave culture but I appreciate the sentiment. Every one should have significance, in my opinion. It wasn't originally just an accessory.

[Rorok 8]

I so agree lira. Im just honestly confused man, like can you elaborate on your disorder, if not i completely understand. Im just very lost on this topic, so it would be hard for me to help.

[justindettman 0]

I don't really know how to elaborate considering I have 4 disorders (Processing, memory, sleeping, depression) and it's an extremely long story. what do you want to know?

[Rorok 8]

Actually, wasnt sure, when you said disorders, that was it, except processing. What's really losnig me is like when you mention ironing for clothes, it was a 3 day project. But you can do kandi, glowsticking etc. Personally, i can be wrong...it sounds like you wanna do something you enjoy to make money. Theres not much available but basic retail garbage like grocery, fast food, before you turn 18. Personally id wait til you're 18, look into office type jobs, they arent as stressful (some can be). Theres always somethin out there for ya, just gotta find it. On the topic of office jobs, you can find stuff as simple as taking down someones information in a office, maybe like a doctors assistant, etc. Hopefully that was some help for ya. (i understand you were looking for anything moneywise now, im not sure exactly how i can help ya out with there, unless you did something online wise. f.ex. surveys, game for cash, etc.)

[justindettman 0]

I have 4 disorders. A processing disorder, a memory disorder, A very severe sleep disorder, and am being treated with a shit load of meds for major depression disorder with psychotic features. (not violent type of psychotic, and I'm stable and a happy person now) My processing disorder is something I rather call a disability. Although It interferes allot with getting any schoolwork done, what really bothers me is how it affects my life outside of school. (not that I go to school for more than an hour everyday anyway. Two and a half hours tops) It's always affecting me but it sometimes gets to the point of where I can only choose to physically do things intentionally or to think intentionally wile my body's actions responds from my subconscious. It's confusing I know. It's very hard to explain, but not just because this disorder impairs my explanation capabilities. It's REALLY confusing. Generally what I'm constantly going through is this state where I have very limited thinking capabilities, I'm mentally pretty slow, I have trouble talking, and My head just can't keep up with the pace of real time. In other words it's very hard for me to function efficiently, and to think deeply. Sometimes people have to talk at a slower pace for me, then pause, and repeat what they just said and do that over and over till I process the information spoken. To this day, I have never read a full chapter book, whether it's school, or just for me to enjoy. I read allot slower and my brain burns out quickly. The one thing I can do well is write. It takes a wile to get done but it gets done. This is probably the disorder that bothers me most. There's allot more to it but I'm trying to keep this as short as possible.

 

Next Is my memory disorder... Pretty self explanatory. It's not Alzheimer's, but it's bad enough to be deemed as a disorder by my doctors. I usually can't remember what I did 4 days before, but I remember once someone tells me about it... Usually. Details about people I always forget easily so I tend to ask questions over and over and over, but I don't normally forget the actual person's existence. I also don’t remember allot of my childhood that I should remember. Other than that I think it's a normal memory disorder.

 

Ahhh, my sleep disorder. This is what my doctors seem to like trying to get to the bottom of most. When I'm off my medication I sleep ~17-20 hours straight (no bathroom breaks), then am awake for around 6-9 hours. As I wake up still in my bed I experience sleep paralysis, I am exhausted and can't do much. Talking is hard, staying awake as well (obviously), And interacting at all while I'm waking up in bed(usually takes 60-90 min.). Currently my sleep disorder is at the best it gets. I sleep 11-14 hours plus 1-2 hour naps and laying down time during the day. I get tired super easily which brings up the subject: Ironing: It involves standing up for a wile (Cause I'm slow and I'm not very good at it) and a fair amount of upper body movement making me too tired to stand any longer. Glowsticking, doesn't last long for me. I'll string for 3-5 minutes a day (usually one session) and it will be followed by lying down or taking a nap. Kandi I can do because, I'm sitting down, either on the floor or my computer desk, and it doesn't involve much movement to where I have to stop and lie down. I can sit down and do computer so that's where I spend allot of my time, but it eventually leads to a nap. If I even do a yawn type stretch (the one where you bend you arm almost all the way and push you elbow back with your fist by your ear wile pushing your chest out... That one) I have to lie down after that. Caffeine doesn't help, it just makes my tremor worse. (I have a tremor just because I'm on so much medication.) and so far we've tried i think 5 stimulants (all the types) and those have next to no affect on me. Again there's allot more to this than I'm gonna put down cause i'm just trying to give you an idea of the basics.

 

Then there's my depression.... Well... not so much anymore. With all the medication I'm on and with all my trips to the hospital because of it, and talking things out, I am now a happy person. (I'm only get depressed here and there because I'm still recovering from my ex breaking up with me 6 months ago. But that has nothing to do with why I was depressed before) I'm also one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. When I found PLUR/rave culture/glowsticking culture right after the last time I was in the hospital/impatient for depression, I have taken it to the extreme and it's like what my entire life is about now. PLUR is just everything to me. I don't know what I would do without you guys, I love you all! *Hugs and rocks side to side*

 

But yeah... There you go. So any retail job out there, I can't do. I was gonna be a bus boy at a restaurant but I don't qualify for it anymore. All online jobs you have to be 18 for unfortunately. And any office job, I'm not going to be able to arrive in the morning and they would have to have a bed so I could lie down. Ya know how they say "If you gotta go, you gotta go"? Well if I have to lie down I HAVE to lie down and there's no getting around it. D'= But, that's the basic gist of everything in a nutshell. I know you probably have a billion questions more now or you simply think it's bullshit. But you know how unlikely it is that I live like this? Well there IS a small percentage of people like me and so SOMEONES got it be it. God chose me. I'm not exactly happy with him about it, but I can live happy without him... If he even exists. Sorry if I confused you more. I most likely did. But I explained the best I could. Thanks for even caring to read this if you did. It's nice to have someone listen sometimes because it help lift allot of weight off my shoulders.

 

Thanks,

JustinDettman

 

If you looked at that an immediately said there's no way I'm gonna read all of that... well... I'm soz, but I did tell you it's a long story. (>_<)

[Lira 38]

haha, no worries, Justin-- I read it all! thanks for sharing that all with us & taking the time to write it up. I hope you keep going-- do you know if there are any foundations & support groups for the kind of processing disorder you have? We're not the authorities on telling you what to do, but I'm sure there's got to be a network of people out there who have years of experience of making sure you can live your life to the fullest still.

[Rorok 8]

I read all of it as well, i really wish i could even think of something that would be a great way of income for you. Honestly only thing i can think of is an at the desk job, i wouldnt recommend customer service, it can be very stressful. Theres gotta be something for you out there man, never give up Also i have just about the same sleep schedule, if i dont get myself up, i can sleep from 10 hours to 15-17 hours a day (17 was the max) Also with naps taking from 30 minutes to about 4-5 hours. I wake up ridiculously tired, with no motivation.

[justindettman 0]

Thanks Lira and Rorok. Well currently I'm not diagnosed with any particular disorder except the depression but my doctors have confirmed the I do definitely have something. The closest thing we've found so far to me is Kleine Levin Syndrome. (or KLS) It's taken us a very long time but last Thursday I took a trip to Buffalo, NY to meet a big doctor in sleep neurology. He is one of the very few who are qualified to determine If I have KLS or not, and as we suspected I don't, but it is something similar. The hope is that with this doctors experience he will be able to help out. I have only talked to him once but he definitely seems to know where to go from here, which is great. I'm getting allot of tests done and this guy just might be our answer.

 

And what do you mean by desk job? Like I said I wont be able to do an office job because of my sleeping and processing that makes me produce work much slower than is required. And Rorok you may not have an average sleep scheduele but that is definitely not just about the same. I could explain but I'll pass do to fact I'm tired of writing essays about my disorders. It's hard for me and It takes time. So your just gonna have to trust me. ; ) Soz. And I know exactly what you mean by waking up with no motivation. I don't have that anymore but I sure do remember and It's tough. You and me just gotta keep hangin' in there though.

 

So I'm not thinkin I'm gonna start selling kandi anymore... I've looked everywhere though and I really can't find anything. I've invested In the stock exchange. Maybe that will magically go up 10X from what it is now... Not likely to happen anytime soon though. =/ *sigh* Sometimes I just gotta say it... FML

 

 

But thanks guys, you were a great help. Luv youz!

[Rorok 8]

Its understandable man. No worries. And like desk wise, maybe just picking a phone up or something, idk man. I hope the best works out for ya!

[PaulSioraiWaldorf 0]

Its understandable man. No worries. And like desk wise, maybe just picking a phone up or something, idk man. I hope the best works out for ya!

 

Alright, I'll start off by saying that I have a biast, because I -do- sell kandy for money.... ish

 

I say sell for money because I do, in fact, take funds, in exchange to make someone something. Also note, I used the term 'money' instead of 'profit' heh.

 

It's fairly difficult to turn a profit making things out of beads for people, because A), it generally isn't well accepted, , is -extremely- time consuming and C), can get quite expensive.

 

Now don't get me wrong here, I don't sell singles, or doubles, or necklaces, or small cuffs and the like, I sell things like Tophats, Skirts, Bikini Tops, all of which are custom made, custom fitted, and custom designed. The average bikini is about 15 in material costs, 5-10 in shipping, and I usually sell em for about 40. Now put in a minimum time frame of 8 hours... comes out to be...

 

40 - (15 + 7.50) = 17.50. Now divide that by 8.

 

That's $2.1875/hour, lets round up and say $2.19. The money isn't poor, it's horrific, but it is, a labor of love.

 

What I'm trying to say here, is that yes, you can sell kandy, and yes, you can even turn a profit on it, depending on how you do it, but, I never did, and by the time I had the chance to, I was already working at a 60,000/year job that barely gives me enough time to make my -own- kandy, let alone kandy for anyone else.