Cody 4 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Dear Loyal Insomniac Fans, We have spent considerable time and efforts in Insomniac meetings discussing the pros and cons of attendees giving LED light shows at Insomniac events. Although there are many who use these lights as an art form, the image that it creates when groups of music fans are sitting or lying on the floor gazing at the designs reflects poorly and sends a false message of what the electronic dance music scene is about. This image jeopardizes our ability to produce events, which we love and plan on doing for decades to come. In addition, local fire marshals have voiced their concerns about attendees sitting on the dance floor and will no longer tolerate the fire hazard that it creates. We've made many efforts to keep this to a minimum by introducing the “Get Up and Dance Crewâ€. These teams were organized to roam around the festivals to encourage people to not lay or sit in designated dance areas or emergency walkways. Unfortunately, this wasn't as sufficient as needed. In conclusion, LED lights and light gloves will no longer be allowed into Insomniac events until further notice. Insomniac always strives to create a fun, music filled environment with state-of-the-art production and large-scale art installations that incorporate both artistic lighting and pyrotechnics. Our intentions are to keep the dance music scene healthy and respectable so we can continue to produce unique and memorable experiences for all of our fans to enjoy. For the time being, we ask that you please leave the light shows to us and contribute to the longevity of our beautiful scene. Sincerely, Insomniac Heard about this earlier today, didn't see a thread for it yet. How do you all feel about this one? Link to post Share on other sites
Aquilae 21 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 wow I didn't see this coming. I can see this as both a good and bad thing. This may end up being a bad thing in the end because of how it could possibly effect glowstickers. If LED lights and gloves are banned, would glowsticks be next? I sure hope not. What do they define as LED lights? are they specifically refering to gloves/ lightshows, or LED lights in general? What about flowtoys, or LED poi? I wouldn't be suprised if this significantly decreases attendance at upcoming events (especially if this ban includes LED poi). This however would not necessarily be a bad thing. If people are only going to events to get light shows, they are there for the wrong reasons anyway. Hopefully this weeds out the people only there for the drugs, and leaves the music lovers behind Link to post Share on other sites
Neon 1 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Epic Fail cause I can see glowsticks being next. Link to post Share on other sites
Phenomenon 0 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 .If people are only going to events to get light shows, they are there for the wrong reasons anyway. Hopefully this weeds out the people only there for the drugs, and leaves the music lovers behind This. Haha I haven't logged in in awhile, I guess I picked a good day. =] If they banned glowsticks that would surely suck. In the end though, I would still love to go and just dance without all the lightshows and etards all over the floor. It would be nice to have some leg room. Link to post Share on other sites
Demo 65 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Huzzah~ I didn't see anything about chems. :V Link to post Share on other sites
Cody 4 Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Insomniac knows who we are here, Glowsticking.com has had a pretty long relationship with them from my understanding. We've been doing the ultracircle at EDC since like forever and I'm pretty sure they know we're a pretty sober community in general and how we conduct ourselves at their events has always been pretty professional. Can somebody from staff try to get in contact with them and see how this new rule applies to us and post it here? It would really suck if glowsticking gets banned too. Link to post Share on other sites
Lira 38 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 ^ seconded. for srsly. I agree with J that sure, this is potentially more likely to filter out the people who are just there for light shows, but if it only prohibits LEDs & electric lights and leaves chems alone, then people are gonna resort to lightshows using chem sticks. Sure, it's not going to be flashy enough for the superficial party-goer, but it'll be better than nothing at all, and enough to keep the kind of people making zoned-out cuddle puddles on the floor, which Insomniac is trying to avoid. Link to post Share on other sites
tkstick 2 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 ha glovers get pawned hard in this one. honestly guys, if they do away with glow sticks it's because of legal trouble. attended the last 2 EDC events, The get up and move crew was a joke. the sitting nazi's, i remember them. there was no real sitting area, and after dancing for so long yeah you needed to sit down... west coast consider yourself lucky. I see more and more gloves out here on the east coast, its like it some sort of mating ritual. girl sits down on side of party, 3 guys with gloves come over, the best is chosen, lalala can't wait for it to be on the jersey shore or something. Always new these things were trouble. shit I Am surprised no one has had a stroke from a glove light show and it hasn't been on the news or something. MAYBE just MAYBE, provide areas where people can sit down, close enough to the stage to hear it fine, but far enough away so its safe.where people can relax take a breather from their hard parting, and don't just say the main stage.... Personally i saw people getting stuck in those piles... if even going in the future ill be staying far away from the main stage.... Link to post Share on other sites
Aquilae 21 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 This is all my personal opinion... There has got to be something else here.... an underlying motive besides that it is a fire hazard to have people sitting on the floor. People could still possibly use gloves at their events w/o causing people to sit on the floor. My guess is that Insomniac does not like the inherent drug connotation that light shows usually have, and thus wants to end light shows in general so drugs will stop being associated with their events. ^ seconded. for srsly. I agree with J that sure, this is potentially more likely to filter out the people who are just there for light shows, but if it only prohibits LEDs & electric lights and leaves chems alone, then people are gonna resort to lightshows using chem sticks. Sure, it's not going to be flashy enough for the superficial party-goer, but it'll be better than nothing at all, and enough to keep the kind of people making zoned-out cuddle puddles on the floor, which Insomniac is trying to avoid. Again, this is my opinion. Lira has a great point... I don't see how banning gloves all the sudden gets people up up off the floor ... it is only a matter of time before insomniac realizes glowsticks can be used as a "lightshow", and thus will cause people to keep sitting on the floor. :_( IMO, unless insomniac lifts this ban, glowsticks (among many other things) will surely be banned at their parties in the near future. Link to post Share on other sites
cynicdave 37 Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 This is what happened when a scene becomes more about the drugs than about the scene itself... hopefully this is temporary. Link to post Share on other sites
Cody 4 Posted January 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Fucking glovers ruined everything. I so called this 3 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites
n00d1ek1ng 0 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 im sad that things have come to this but still... from another perspective, the ban on LEDS just uprooted a new emerging artform. while it may be a mating ritual for some, for others its their primary outlet for expression. just because gloving lightshows are the flavor of the month, its being attacked and held responsible for some of the negative things happening in the scene... gloving helped the scene grow, in good wayz and bad, its a dance just like any other and should be respected. there are those who dedicate their souls to the art form, and should be given freedom of expression. if glowsticks getz banned next........... BUT REALLY THO, IM HELLA SAD. =[ Link to post Share on other sites
Aquilae 21 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 ...just because gloving lightshows are the flavor of the month, its being attacked and held responsible for some of the negative things happening in the scene... The only reason why they have been banned is because they tend to promote people sitting on the dance floor. This poses a fire hazard. However, I do believe that glovers are not the only reason why people sit on the floor... Link to post Share on other sites
zin 25 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 ACCEPTABLE ITEMS OK Small Bags, Single Compartment Backpacks and Purses (maximum 10†x 10â€) OK Reusable Insomniac Aluminum Water Bottles (must be empty upon entry) OK Fanny Packs OK Non-Professional Flash/Still Cameras OK Cell Phones OK Sunglasses OK Hats OK Lighters OK Closed Packs of Cigarettes OK Sealed/Wrapped Tampons OK Earplugss OK Glowsticks OK Glowing/Illuminated Costumes or Jewelry Link to post Share on other sites
Aquilae 21 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 ACCEPTABLE ITEMS OK Glowsticks OK Glowing/Illuminated Costumes or Jewelry Yay let's hope it stays this way! Link to post Share on other sites
PHOENIXXX 3 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 i dont have much knowledge myself as to insomniac events, only know what parties they throw and how long they've been throwing them but i agree with dave. if you look at this from another standpoint though maybe they had gs.c in mind when they made the final decision and before anyone says (well obviously not) i'd like to say that well they may have due to the fact that they didnt go ahead and ban all lights from their events. I have a good feeling that even if they did ban all lights to prevent anymore unwanted attention coming to them that they would continue throwing massives with a large attendance because those people who genuinly care for the artist and the music will still gladly attend, i dont foresee them having an issue with that in the future but thats rambling. anyway back to the topic at hand, i'm sure if given a somewhat decent reason to they will ban glowsticks if the need arises which nowadays unlike back so many years ago, a lot of uneducated people will give them a damn good reason so i would prepare for the worst and hope for the best. If i could make a suggestion, keep promoting gs.c and the sites core values, you never really know how large an impact you may make by pointing someone in our direction or demonstrating what we believe in as group. So in short, if you see someone out on the floor sitting and obviously doing what insomniac hates to see, then try and encourage them to move along. Trust me when i say i know how rude and/or difficult it is to do this but every little bit helps and not only for you but the community. @jebsax, i agree with you also though no matter what insomnaic does the kind of artists they bring in and music they promote (at least here in the US) with always carry the stigma of drugs etc. thats just how the "rave" scene has always been and will always be i believe, until god unleashes his fury upon the earth and makes EDM >>>mainstream<<< so much as to what your hearing now with tiesto etc. teaming up with rap artists and how mainstream dubstep has gotten, its really insane actually and even though i had a feeling that since rap was becoming so bland now that people here had nowhere else to go except into EDM it makes sense but sucks for most of us who had been cheering it on for so many years. right now they think that by doing this they have something constructive to show the police force, whereas most may not look at it this way but honestly {{{{eliminating the drugs from your parties will eliminate this exact problem}}}}}} what does that entail? something we all dont want which is complete and thorough searches, i dont know how thorough they are now because i've never been to one of their events but it appears to me that they arent doing the best job, now granted i understand that these are massive events and everyone wants to get in but we have to ask ourselves as always, where do we as party attendees and insomniac draw the line so everyone is happy? -end rant- thanks for reading, its good to see all of you again Link to post Share on other sites
cynicdave 37 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 one of the main reasons why glowsticks are still okay is that glowsticking.com members have tirelessly promoted our stance in the past 10 years and bigger organizations like insomniac sees this. Link to post Share on other sites
Demo 65 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 ACCEPTABLE ITEMS OK Small Bags, Single Compartment Backpacks and Purses (maximum 10†x 10â€) OK Reusable Insomniac Aluminum Water Bottles (must be empty upon entry) OK Fanny Packs OK Non-Professional Flash/Still Cameras OK Cell Phones OK Sunglasses OK Hats OK Lighters OK Closed Packs of Cigarettes OK Sealed/Wrapped Tampons OK Earplugss OK Glowsticks OK Glowing/Illuminated Costumes or Jewelry AwwwyeeeeeeeeeeeEEEE Link to post Share on other sites
Phenomenon 0 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 AwwwyeeeeeeeeeeeEEEE fixt. Link to post Share on other sites
Afro-Nitr0 5 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 =D Very Happy. Link to post Share on other sites
Tossrock 2 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Well, given that you're not supposed to bring drugs in either, and people still manage that, I don't see this edict actually succeeding at stamping out glove shows or cuddle puddles. There will still be glovers gloving and puddles cuddling, and until Insomniac decides to start literally kicking them out if they get caught, I think there probably will be for the foreseeable future. Where it might have a noticeable effect I think is on the rampant growth gloves have seen of late (woo I'm totally a raver, watch me wave these lights in your face, skillz) and limit them to the people who take it more seriously and would be willing to smuggle lights in. Which is probably for the best, in my opinion. I'd rather the glovers be people who actually care enough about what they're doing to take some risks for it than a bunch of kids who heard about raves on facebook. Given that glowsticks are still kosher, I have to wonder if the ban will lead to a surge in new freehanders/stringers (and likely new gs.c members), drawn to the only sanctioned glowy alternative. Do you guys think this would be a good thing? While I'm all for spreading the art, I feel like it would mostly be people with a shallow interest (ie equivalent to their level of interest in gloves). Even before the ban, I noticed a veritable plague of angry butterflies at EDC '10; I don't think we really need any more. Then again, if it leads to more people finding a passion for glowsticking and becoming valuable contributing members of the community, I can't condemn it. Just some thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites
Afro-Nitr0 5 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I wouldn't be to worried about posers picking up stringing. Most glovers in my area always say this to me "Yea man, I tried glowsticks and they were way to hard, so i picked up gloves and got good in a month =D" Link to post Share on other sites
Cody 4 Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 ACCEPTABLE ITEMS OK Small Bags, Single Compartment Backpacks and Purses (maximum 10†x 10â€) OK Reusable Insomniac Aluminum Water Bottles (must be empty upon entry) OK Fanny Packs OK Non-Professional Flash/Still Cameras OK Cell Phones OK Sunglasses OK Hats OK Lighters OK Closed Packs of Cigarettes OK Sealed/Wrapped Tampons OK Earplugss OK Glowsticks OK Glowing/Illuminated Costumes or Jewelry Definitely sounds like great news. Lets see what happens next. Link to post Share on other sites
Lira 38 Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Even before the ban, I noticed a veritable plague of angry butterflies at EDC '10 I lol'd. However, this is unfortunately true. "yo, girl, can I borrow your strings! YO, CHECK OUT WHAT I CAN DO." *angry butterfly, sticks click & hit some poor passerby* Link to post Share on other sites
StrobeEfex420 0 Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 im certain tht they wont ban glowsticks because we dont sit on the floor and string, therefore we are not causing a fire hazard. glowsticks > gloves Link to post Share on other sites
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