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Suspensions and Bans for Supporting Competition

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Dave, I've been too busy to see this thread until now, and still only made it halfway through. Happee Place 2 was my 1st rave ever, yes, I was there. I saw exactly 2 people playing with poi, and had no idea that there was any sort of competition. I never saw a flier for it, I just went last minute to listen to my favorite DJ and support my friend, both of which are JellybeanX. I did leave around midnight which is why I was ignorant of all this stuff till Elvin was already suspended. So go ahead and suspend me.

 

In any case, I will continue to read the thread to understand wtf is going on, but I feel badly for him and some others that have stepped up in his defense here because all of them have been supportive and nice to me, and has made me love GSC, and apparently there are some bad things in the history here that you have to know and understand that i do not.

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Dave, I've been too busy to see this thread until now, and still only made it halfway through. Happee Place 2 was my 1st rave ever, yes, I was there. I saw exactly 2 people playing with poi, and had no idea that there was any sort of competition. I never saw a flier for it, I just went last minute to listen to my favorite DJ and support my friend, both of which are JellybeanX. I did leave around midnight which is why I was ignorant of all this stuff till Elvin was already suspended. So go ahead and suspend me.

 

In any case, I will continue to read the thread to understand wtf is going on, but I feel badly for him and some others that have stepped up in his defense here because all of them have been supportive and nice to me, and has made me love GSC, and apparently there are some bad things in the history here that you have to know and understand that i do not.

 

The one who was banned actually competed in the competition. the one suspended was not because he spun at a rave with a competition, its because he hid it from us, knowing that there was a battle going down and instead of either talking to the rave promoters himself or letting us do it, he chose to be quiet about it.

 

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Wait..... I thought he was glowsticking and actually participating in a battle. If he was just trying to get his music out there then i don't completely agree with this ban.

Like others said on this forum i dont completley agree with this ban.

These are getting blown sadly way out of proportion.....

 

 

Were is the Plurr????

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If he was just trying to get his music out there then i don't completely agree with this ban.

 

The one who was banned actually competed in the competition. the one suspended was not because he spun at a rave with a competition, its because he hid it from us, knowing that there was a battle going down and instead of either talking to the rave promoters himself or letting us do it, he chose to be quiet about it.

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I hate when people reference PLUR in their post.

 

 

...actually, people just need to read this thread. It's really not that long.

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I hate when people reference PLUR in their post.

 

 

...actually, people just need to read this thread. It's really not that long.

 

 

exactly what i was thinking. in fact almost word for word.

 

 

 

 

and dave:

 

How authoritarian and fascist of you to think that.

 

Nazism is sometimes considered by scholars to be a form of fascism. While it incorporated elements from both political wings, it formed most of its alliances on the political right.[9] The Nazis were one of several historical groups that used the term National Socialism to describe themselves, and in the 1920s they became the largest such group.

 

There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[2] than others invented later.[1] For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress.

 

Cleric even mentioned it several times, and it has been ringing in my head the past several days

 

 

 

 

 

Can we please close this entire thing now? no one is moving forward with this argument, and perhaps we have even taken several steps backward.

 

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in typical fashion i am late to these threads. sorry guys hahaha (got alot going on)

 

most of my opinions and feelings on this have been expressed by staff (Dave, Ange, Azzie, Rai, etc.)

 

as for the parts that weren't expressed.

 

shame on ALL of you that support anyone that participated (wether they were spinning or mixing)

and especially shame on you for those who participated.

 

defending your friends just because they were on GSC and then deliberately broke the rules, is like the SA kids defending eachother because they were on GSC at some point in time (Shok, Trunkz, Hewy, etc.) except this time you actually think that it is justified (oh wait, i take that back, because THEY thought it was justified too) just because they are banned doesnt mean you are going to drop your entire life with them (theres a difference between internet and reality) albiet those that believe this as an art and even a lifestyl (myself included) would no longer associate with people claiming as "a time killer" or "a hobby" and those that HAVE been banned and have such concepts of the art will more than likely burn out and dissapear from the culture and their local scene altogether.

 

to those of you that have been banned for this shit, good riddance, those of you who attended, you knew better, to those of you who didnt know and still attended, stop being so gullible and research your events.

 

sorry if i come across as a dick, but getting to go back to Austin recently (mad hatters tea party 7) reminded me just how fucking ugly a scene can be. (brooding negativity before anyone even cracks sticks) luckily so far this thread hasnt deteriorated into an arguement about wether battling is right or wrong (knock on wood) but more of an arguement about the response from the site.

 

really if this were in any other location across the united states, the response WOULD STILL BE THE SAME. people would be BANNED for this shit. people will continue to be BANNED for stuff like this.

 

honestly i feel like im just beating a dead horse with even responding to this thread, because something as simple as this has been blown to all hell now coming up on ten pages. im done,

 

so in short

 

an event sponsoring battling happened, some kids got banned for attending, some people took it personally, life goes on.

 

now if youll excuse me i have concepts and tutorials i need to be working on =P

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prix/g0d

 

you didn't realize i was being ironic when i pulled the authoritarian and fascist thing upside down on him since you guys pretty much started it?

 

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prix/g0d

 

you didn't realize i was being ironic when i pulled the authoritarian and fascist thing upside down on him since you guys pretty much started it?

 

 

nope.........

 

i am still not so good at detecting these sort of things. i found that it is better to take things at face value than to assume something different might have meant. it saves a lot of confusion.

 

 

 

and how did you know that G0D and i are the same? Cleric "informed" me a while ago, and never told me how he found out.

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im happy to have met all those iv met throughout the year . norcal to nyc to nj to texas, seattle, arizona and many many more ..

 

but when it comes down to all this ..

 

i never thought of a day i would quit gsc .

 

and i have come to a conclusion .

 

im done with this site ..

 

thank you all for making those memories amazing

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Wtf is this now...barca...JunO....im sorry but if this is how you all feel than run away from the rest of your problems too. This site was made by family, now if you really want to leave the family than all your going to be is a faint memory.

 

Stop being babies and running away from everything, be a real man and talk up about how you really feel.

 

I'm not running away, i can't i have met to many people i love, i met people who are closer to me than mostly any family member. This site....i have beliefs in, i trust the people on this site...not all of them, but the ones i have made friends with in my past 2 years.

 

Im disgraced, i truly am.

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Every time I see one of you people go, Three more come to the site.

 

I've been here for a while now, and while I don't post as much as many of you people who just came on to the site recently, you gotta keep in mind that you put in as much of yourself as possible in these sorts of forums, without GS.C, I'd lose something pretty damn important in my life, even if it seems like I'm just lurking around most of the time, these people are my friends, and I'm happy that they are.

 

If you leave, catch you later, but you'll be missing out.

 

 

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one more thing,

on freehandglow's comment

YES, THERE IS A CULTURE BEHIND VISUAL ART AS WELL

you limit it to just paint on a canvas, and that it has not culture;

that is ridiculously offensive

dont say shit like that, EVER AGAIN

because that is just being ignorant

 

Two things in response to your threat:

 

1. Reread my post becuase obviously understanding text phailed you temporarily. I said art has many different "mediums", did I not? The one example I happened to use was oil based on a canvas. Therefore, fuck you!

 

2. Next, I'm defending the CULTURE & COMMUNITY more so than the art. Time and time again when I posted here I named the culture as my main reason for posting. I even said that while I love Glowsticking and it is a passion of mine it is a hobby. I too am an artist...I'm a dj in training, so don't tell me I don't know what it is like. Things like the other visual arts lack the type of culture this type of art has.

 

For the record, don't use statements like "EVER AGAIN" with me because I see them as threats, and I'm not the type of person to just sit by and take threats.

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seriously guys

ive been off this for a few hours

and this already is exploding out of proportions.

 

as for some of you,

just... please read carefully before posting,

not just once, but twice, maybe even three times.

me and a friend are reading this,

and we noticed that a lot of important and valid points,

whether it pertained to the topic or not

are not even being addressed anymore

almost everyone is just flaming at this point

 

this isnt necessary on gs.c

and that is a fact that is agreed upon

just close the thread.

shit.

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I hate seeing all this happen..

But whatever..

 

Most of the staff doesn't know me, most of the longstanding members don't know me. I'm just a twig on the tree, but here goes.

 

People who don't trust the site, the admins, or the ideals are the ones who are going to leave.

I retract my post on the 2nd page stating that this should have been locked after the first post.

 

Leaving it open was kinda sorta intelligent. Whether the outcome was planned/intentional or not.

 

I don't know any of the people pertaining to these suspensions because for the amount of time that I've been here, and because of personal situations, I've been unable to go to the meetups and parties that I've wanted to. I met cleric and icy (and sparrow?) in brooklyn in april. They stole my table and broke it. Then cleric bs'd with me and my friends for a long time, but mostly to me about the website. He explained the ideals, and told me that I didn't have to be at any skill level to be a part of the site. Prior to meeting him, I'd watched his videos and used them for inspiration.

 

I joined, I posted, I read, I learned, and now I'm hosting my first collaboration and have a couple of videos up and a tutorial. There are a lot lot lot lot lot of freedoms on this website, and because of those freedoms I've done what I've done. There could easily be a "submit your video and we'll host it on youtube with our tag" system on this site, but the admins put alot of faith into you, as you should them.

 

The "not real" glowstickers that are active now (which could easily be a group that I fall into according to this thread, but eiher way) are going to inspire someday, but you guys have to understand that if you're going to use the glowsticking.com tag in your youtube videos/tutorials, then this website wants you to inspire people towards the path of non-battling, if ANYTHING. We're just as responsible for the future of this site as anyone else is, and that, again, is why Dave is making the decisions he's making. This website will always be a non-battling website, through thick and thin, fire and flames, 100 years down the road. We have everything to do with that.

 

What people need to understand is that this community is what it is because of decisions that people like Dave and his friends have been making for years. This is just another log on the fire. I've learned from this thread, though I've had nothing to do with it. Sometimes it's good to speak up, but when you break the rules, you break the rules.

Period.

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Which table? The platform? Hahaha if you mean that. I had absolutly nothing to do with that. Lololol.

 

Kfr you always cool peeps in my book.

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Which table? The platform? Hahaha if you mean that. I had absolutly nothing to do with that. Lololol.

Yeah dude. That was my throne until Icy got up and did some nasty crosser combos with pink glowsticks. Haha.

 

Kfr you always cool peeps in my book.

 

Word hombre.

 

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this thread was completely necessary.

 

i'm going to give a few people who have "left" a few days to cool off. but after that, if they don't change their mind, they will be deleted from their system so they don't get spammed by our newsletters and they can make their decisions final.

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this thread was completely necessary.

 

i actually meant further arguments

but

this is enough

 

as for those who are leaving,

they are leaving, not because they dont believe in gs.c's ideals and beliefs,

and not because they dont trust the site,

on the contrary, they love the site and the community,

they distrust a few of the staff and admins.

 

their hope is that this will cool off in a couple years,

then they will come back, and fully participate as they have when they were active

that is, only if things change for the better

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on the contrary, they love the site and the community,

they distrust a few of the staff and admins.

 

wilson, IM me if you want the full full story. but it'll be between you and me, or i'll have to kill ya.

 

my AIM: eysan

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Pretty Much

Sparrow and others broke it down well.

and pretty sad about the 2 losess because i met them in person..and they are Good Men.

 

But to Promote a party for battlers...You might as well Pass Pillls around..

And tanks of Moutain Dew..and see who overdose's first.."no offense"

 

But then again..to be a DJ..comes alot of Resposibilites to the crowd....Vibe.....and Trying to make peace should be one of them right??

 

and being a part of GSC adds more Responsibility..

 

so after that..im kinda speechless.

 

 

 

 

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